Either their are a few people on here who are special interests for CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint or they really have no technical knowledge on phones. I worked with most of the companies and consult with all four so I am unbiased on the issue, here is the thing EDGE is a more established network than the UMTS one and yes they have revamped it, blackberries 8300,8800 and Pearl have been using edge class 12 for a while now and they sell very well and most people who own a at&t blackberry rarely complain, I know I have a curve and it suits me well for the internet. So to the iphones internet it has wi-fi on it you nitwits and in using the phone and reading its technical aspects it's programmed to find a wi-fi network first and then it falls back to edge. So the internet should be fine on it. It's apple when they put their name on something this big I am sure they thought of practically everything. It's going to revolutionize the industry, I honestly just feel sorry for the other top 3 carriers who didnt get the deal with apple, I would hope it fails too if I were them, which I doubt it will. Just the visual voicemail alone reading about it is enough to persuade me to get one. Now please get over yourselves and go mess with the demo on June 29th when it comes out like I will.
In response to the comment posted by The CZAR of Common Sense...lets break down each point made:
1. Actually it is a phone with an iPod built in, hence the reason Apple believes they are reinventing the phone not reinventing the iPod. Since it is a phone it really should receive a discount with service, however the price isn't too bad for considering the number of features you are getting. Too bad it will be too slow to make the best use of the cool features other than the iPod.
2. EDGE- LOL...revamped...that's funny because it is still 5X slower than the other broadband networks out there and with Verizon's REV A upgrade already being rolled out nationwide the EDGE difference is definitely more than 5x slower in those areas. Not to mention that critics given the phone to play with, while they love the device, they totally bagged on the speed of the data network. The consensus was: "Excruciatingly Slow".
I should also add that Apple decided not to make it function with AT&T's upgraded UMTS-HSDPA 3G network; probably to get more money out of us later when they upgrade the device.
3. Of course an AT&T technician will say its browser capabilities have exceeded that of certain 3G devices. It doesn't benefit them to say it doesn't exceed, but what devices did they compare to when making that claim???
Just food for thought.
To everybody who is complaining about price and features of the iPhone, stop and think about something... This is not a phone with an iPod built in, it's an iPod with a phone built in... iPod's do not have removable batteries, you do not get a discount on their price when you sign a 2yr commitment with them...
Also, as for the EDGE, it network has been "re-vamped", has had an increase in the data capacity, and speed. AT&T technicians have reported that the browser capabilites have exceeded those of certain 3G devices....
Russ,
The point behind wanting 3G is because 3G is faster than EDGE and 3G is available WITHOUT having to stop into a restaurant.
Also believe it or not, free WIFI access is not as available is you think.
Also ATT's 3G is in a lot more places than people think.
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.html
IPhone needs 3G and a replaceable phone.
That's a lot of money for a disposable phone!
My N95 smoke the Iphone in hardware power. Its has no autofocus,2 megapixel,no flash on camera, no 3g, no A2DP, no buttons all touchscreen. My n95 has 3.5mm jack,A2DP,5mega camera with flash & autofocus, VGA 30fps video, 3g and shit loads of software.
"smart" is correct. 3G allows for voice and data usage simultaneously. The bottom line is the iPhone will be the most advanced device released in the US to date. Features like the accelorometer that automatically switches from portrait to landscape, proximty sensor, and ambient light sensor is what "raises the bar".
3G wold be nice, but it's not available everywhere.. not yet. Personally I'm not too concerned with having superfast internet.
I think the biggest dissapointment is that they are only offering 4gb and 8gb. We all know they could fit more capacity than that. What they're going to do is offer the lower capacity now and then later on they'll release it with higher capacity. It's all about marketing.
No matter what... this phone is gonna sell like hotcakes.
ok.. to the comment about 3g and voice and data not working properly together is an incorrect statment, "cingular, the new at&t", has network that runs on two seperate systems. now for the basic... gsm netowrk runs on the SMS platform (think of it as a super high), wenever you turn on ur fone it send a SMS notifaction to the towers which then get redicredted to the switch (routers) and comes to the MSC (the voice side of the netwrk) and if u have internet on ur fone than that to goes throough the sam chanels but registers to the SGSN (data side of the network), ok...sooo very basic, now with a 3g divice which (2.5g = gprs, 2.7g = edge, 3g = umts, 3.5g = umts w/ hsdpa... for those who dont know) which runs on the same basic concept but build up like a pyrimad, instead of 1 super highway you have 2 for ea. directions. know he was right about 2g - 2.7g divice not being able to do voice and data at the same time, but, umts and umts w/ hsdpa (hsdpa = high speed downlink packet access) data capable deivce do allow you to do data and voice at the same time, as long as you are in a area offering 3g/ umts serivce, which you would know by the lil' icon on ur deivce [U] or [E] or [G]...w/e... but i would actaully love to see that the iphone become a 3g device, but, of course apple/ mac has disagreed to, and most likely it will stay that way, i have not heard anything other than the hole cisco and iphone battle that has ended a while back, so... unfortunely... iphone being a 3g deivce?, i dont think so. and about the comment about it having a removable disc being a good idea? seriously! its 8gb storage and like 7.5 - 6gb after formating (thats IF it needs to be)...sooo...ummm. thas alot more than what alot of cellphones, smartphones, pda, pocket pc...ect. offer, but, to ea. his/her own i guess
I thik before launchin the the iphone should have the feature of 3G as well Memory slot. this will have an added advantage for the customers in use....... nad increase the productivity too.
Guys lets face it....3G...although nice...is almost going to defeat the purpose......the device already has wifi.....which when the iphone detects a wifi network it automatically connects.......and when your going to have time to do websurfing or something that would use the full power of 3G or the edge network.....your more than likely going to be in a place where wifi would be available....most restraunts and establishments have wifi....which works better b/c then it would not tie up the phone network....most devices now if your on surfing or using the data connection you cannot make/recieve calls.....think about it.....why would a phone company want to have everyone surfing...it ties up a ton of signal ...i work for the "other" guys...lol...wink wink...and the last thing you want is thousands of people surfing which in essence ties up signal....basically taking down the ability to make a call....just like sprint and their tv services do the same thing I am talking about......imagine a room full of people watching tv....something of the 300+ range...but still...all trying to watch tv....that would literally overload a cell site and or a switch...and would eventually not allow other users trying to make a call b/c there is soo much signal that would be dedicated to the users watching TV...so it was probably a joint decision that cingy and apple did together.....this will also more than likely allow for incoming calls while surfing......so as dumb as it seems not to add 3G.....it was a smart move......
Lets all be realistic here, wow ITS ALL TOUCH SCREEN... now that that’s over, lets get in reality, besides its nice looks, one it will be scratch magnet no matter how "Scratch resistant" it will seem, No matter how slim it is, its still wide and tall, There will be no immediate third party software for the first year, it will probably freeze because of all its graphics its running and have several overdoses within the first year, No matter how good the battery may seem, it will constantly drain the actual life of the battery (As seen by the iPods which run hard drives) if your browsing the web and your cars about to get jacked, have fun telling the jacker "Please hold while I access the phone portion of this device...just one more sec... there we go 911." Like yea. So why are we paying 500-700 dollars on a network that runs cingular? Lets see. 2.0 mega camera and a hard drive… WHY? Because we want something different. Tell you what go to the internet find a unreleased Nokia and buy that and save a few bucks. Ill stick with my HTC Pocket pc with 4gb mini sd card and 2.0 pix camera.
Wait… I don’t dislike apple, I like apple, I have several Macs and PowerBooks which are wonderful don’t get me wrong, but while everyone is all caught up in the hype of this device, you can buy a notebook for the same amount as this phone, better yet use the 700 as a down payment on a new car. I like how apple designed it, I do, its cool, its sheik its simple and its really…nice, but wait a year or two and see how you feel hear all the problems, here all the talk, see how many thumbs up you get and then… when Apple releases the same device in white, hear it all again.
I think apple should add 3G before launching the phone and cingular having 3G network will be of great use, and ofcourse GPS also, compactable accesories must available with the phone like the pouch and a handsfree for that price. this is really a next generation phone. hats off for Apple.
i am waiting for this phone to buy.......... the features r so gooooood....... and the introduction by jobs inspired me to buy the iphone .........
I have seen the videos on this phone & it is way ahead of the other cell phones out. This phone is way cool & I plain to be one of the first one's to buy come June.
Way to go Apple!
Damn ... iv watched the overview of this phone like... a bagaillion times
one time every day basically minus final days =]
im getting this phone in june...
and if you think this is expensive
you should look at the Sonyericsson W950i
its 600 bucks and its still not even close to this tech.... just wanted to point out .. same price... for more :]
look GREAT !!
It was our mistake, we appologise for the inconvinience. As there have been just a few days since our new site launched, some problems accured - the iPhone HAS phonebook, and it's camera has 2.0-megapixels. The specificaitons now indicate it correctly.
i noticed that this page gives missing features that APPLE does include in the phone such as the following phonebook and camera: Here is the excerpts from the Apple webpage
iPhone features a 2-megapixel camera and a photo management application that goes far beyond anything on a phone today. Sync photos from your PC or Mac, and you’re ready to browse or email them with the flick of a finger.
iPhone is a revolutionary new mobile phone that allows you to make a call by simply pointing your finger at a name or number in your address book, a favorites list, or a call log. It also automatically syncs all your contacts from a PC, Mac, or Internet service. And it lets you select and listen to voicemail messages in whatever order you want — just like email.
I am blowen away. How are you supose to remember all of your numbers. The convience of cell phones is that you do not have to remember! What is apple thinking???
This is a great fone, i like it, i like it alot! i want it, i want it alot! i do i do i do. Everyone shopuld get this excellently brilliant phone from apple